[Status: Backburner ⌛️] New feature - WBS

Hi,

I am missing the possibility to create, oversee and work with a WBS directly in wrike.

For me this is a very important feature to have when planning a project. I often start by making a wbs and then create my project, folders and tasks in wrike.

It would make a lot of sense if I would create my WBS directly in Wrike.

Thanks

//Oskar 

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Hi , can we please get a WBS feature in Wrike. Similar to Joshua's post above would be great. I am used working with WBS from Microsoft Project, which can auto-calculate WBS codes for all tasks. it is most useful when used with summary tasks or groups of tasks.

My use case is the following: I often get a draft version of a project plan from our presales team, which can come in very basic form such as a spreadsheet or word document. The draft plan contains project phases and tasks labelled with titles and WBS code. As a project manager, I am re-creating the project plan in Wrike while trying to keep the overall WBS structure of the summary tasks.  Often, the titles from the draft plan are not descriptive and need to be changed, which has a potential of confusing the project stakeholders. WBS codes can help guiding various team members through the evolution of a plan as we try keeping the WBS structure constant while task titles may change over time.

Thanks for your attention to this matter.

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I don't want to muddy the waters too much, but the way I use WBS is to have work packages defined with clear deliverables. I am kludging a few things together at the moment where I am making sub-tasks to be deliverables/outputs rather than having a different item type.  For certain contracts, I am paid according to a schedule of deliverables and this often falls out of the WBS.

In an ideal world, the outputs of a task could be somehow identified in a searchable/filterable/data-friendly way (instead of being text within the description of a work package).

I assume discussion of these finer points would happen once the votes get above 60.

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Adding my upvote to the mix.

@Lisa Agreed that conceptually a WBS is just a structured hierarchy, which can be achieved in the Table view as per @Johsua's example. The shortcomings I see are in the accessibility of this approach:

  • Manually creating WBS numbering/identifiers
  • Tabular view being visually dense and therefore difficult to quickly interpret/communicate, as opposed to a classical WBS graphical visualisation
  • Deliverables having to be represented as tasks, folders, or text in descriptions, when conceptually they would be better suited as an object type of their own

Hopefully this topic makes it into queue soon!

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I was just about to start an own thread for this feature but using the search first I found this request. 

Maybe a bit apart from classic project and task management we are using Wrike to control and do all tasks of our team. We gain transparency and qualitiy in our daily work and in our multiple and complex projects which we always do parallel. 

We created different folders to track our projects and tasks, since we never work a day only on one tasks. The table is a way to get an overview which task is assigned to wich hierarchy but since it is only 2-dimensional going on forever (in our case) you will already have forgotten what was the first task when you reach the last one. 

Today I learned that name of this tree / organizational chart view is work breakdown structure. I hope that this is the solution for getting a fast overview of all planned tasks in our folder hierarchy. 

I already requested this feature in the customer satisfaction surveys but I think that these are not linked to features requested by the community.

Please give us this feature in a soon release.

Fabian 😊

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strongly agree!

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Please give us this feature in a soon release!!!

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I'm going to throw my vote in on this one, i am limiting my projects to only going down a couple of level in WBS. Some of our projects are complex and require us to go 3-4 levels down. 

For the moment I am working with what I have, I'm hoping that this gets added to your teams backlog and soon becomes a reality. maybe 2020 or 2021. 

 

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I think the WBS, as I understand, could be achieved with the table view, the new table view is actually a big improvement and help here.  I think the key would be to get the task ID's more sensible, that is requested across the forum and I wholeheartedly agree on that one, the current multi-digit (too long for me to know how many in fact without going back and checking!) ID's are not useful.

Also, I think task linking would be a huge benefit to this: 

https://help.wrike.com/hc/en-us/community/posts/360023517974-General-links-and-cross-references-between-tasks

The Visual Paradigm example put forth by @Carolin Mohr is really aided by those links.  In Jira, there are some add ons that will create a full live Diagram, like a MindMap in a sense, of task relationships.  Something like this would be huge, but that seems like the type of thing it would take Wrike 10 years to develop.  Sorry guys, but you are exactly cranking out new features of that sort!  Task links that truly relate to one another, ie if a task is mentioned in another task, the "mentioned" task also picks up the mention, is something I think you guys can do and really hoping you make it happen.  It would go a long way to allowing for a WBS to be created with the existing table, and some good numbering.

Thanks!

 

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And by the way I think it's worth pointing out that this now has 64 votes.  You guys have said repeatedly in this thread that is the amount needed to get a status applied.  You should at least take 5 min. and add something!  I'm sure a lot of people, such as myself, are watching these feature improvements and evaluating Wrike longer-term for their teams.  There are so many other tools right now out there, and it's easy to move off to one, so I'd really like to see you guys step up the game with speed of development, and response to feature requests, most of which I've found in the forums to be on the simpler side to implement, but many take years to see the light of day!  Case in point, I posted earlier today here:

https://help.wrike.com/hc/en-us/community/posts/115000141329--Status-Backburner-Sort-Comments-by-Newest-at-the-top

And immediately got this response:

"Oh, this again? Fat chance guys... they refuse to correct. It was a deal breaker for our CO; we've moved on."

Thanks for listening guys!

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@Al Sape I do not hink, that an organigram like view on structure of project, folders and tasks is such a big challenge for a developement team, since gant, table view, board view etc. are already up and running.

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@Fabian, thanks!  I agree seems a simple fix I hope they can make that happen.  At times when features come out, in my experience so far with Wrike, I didn't even realize they were on the roadmap, but they can be useful, like the new table view which I've been using a lot.  Come to think of it, "both" new table views - the New Table view of a space, and the new tables that came out for task descriptions, which new abilities to re-size, and to add columns and rows via right click for example.

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I would also much appreciate the integration of a WBS feature in wrike. It seems to be quite logical for Wrike to have this feature.

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Hey everyone! As this suggestion got 60+ upvotes, I checked with the product team and the status is "Backburner" for now. They really love the idea though, and I'll continue to check for updates. I'll get back to you as soon as I have any updates to share. 

Thanks so much for your feedback! 

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The lack of response to this issue, it THE REASON we have given up on Wrike.

 

Its really amazing how long they have ignored many many requests, in different areas.  The request process does not seem to work.

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I agree with all the above comments the addition of a WBS would much improve Wrike. Considering this topic has 65+ votes with a lot of requests for it to be developed, yet it is still on the back burner amazes me. I thought Wrike's continuous improvement process was based on what features it's customers' require? Or has this been put in the too hard basket?

 

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Hi everyone, thank you for all of your feedback!

Although our Product team is really interested in the idea, it currently is not on the short term roadmap. I'll let you know as soon as I have an update for you all.

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It it is disappointing to hear that this improvement suggestion is still not on the short term roadmap considering the amount of requests. Is it on the long term roadmap? What is Wrike's time frame for items on the short term roadmap, 1, 2,3,6 mths?

 

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This is indeed very disappointing to hear.

 

I've got to be honest, decisions like this and a couple of others make me wonder if Wrike has any actual project management practitioners on their staff who are consulted on development decisions like these.  A WBS is a critical piece of a project being run with predictive methodologies and manually creating one can be a pain in the butt.

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Hi Emma Jones and John Bibbs! I'm really sorry to hear you're disappointed! Please rest assured that your feedback is passed on to the team!

The suggestion is most likely not planned for this year, but we'll keep bringing this up with the team regularly and we'll let you know when we have any updates to share.

Thank you again for your feedback! 

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I'll add my voice to the others crying in the wilderness - we spend so much time when building our schedules in Wrike trying to keep things in a logical order...right now our painful workaround is using alphanumerics in task names until we get the structure built - really an astounding statement when you consider the fundamental presence of the WBS concept in project management methodology.

Wrike seems to be traveling away from serious project management and increasingly down the path of transactional production task management.  That's not the kind of tool we need, and it would certainly be great to see some kind of response in product design to the aggregated outcry for this across the community forum rather than the tally on one thread.  😫

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Hey Paul Bushrow, thank you for sharing your use case! It's been passed on to the Product team. I don't have an update for you at the moment, but as soon as I do, I'll let you know.

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Without WBS numbers, there seems to be no way to put tasks back in order once you sort the columns in ascending or descending order in the Table and Gantt chart views.  I had to re-title tasks with the WBS number in front because users would sort and then get totally lost and not able to get back to sequential flow.  Now, if I have to insert a task or sub-task, I have to re-title to keep everything organized and in waterfall view.  This feature, like the percent complete on tasks, is a fundamental feature in project management!!!

 

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Larry Davidson As a temporary workaround I've created a custom field called "WBS Code" which allows my PMs to sort a project by the WBS code.  It's a little easier than updating the activity names because you don't have to worry about making unwanted changes to the rest of the activity name. It doesn't solve the problem of having to manually update the codes but for us, it makes it a little easier when having to do that manual work.

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Thanks, I was just considering that similar to what I am doing with a custom field for task level percent complete.  You would still have to go through the renumbering process when you insert or move a task but it least it gives it a method for now.

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Hi, 

 

in my company we also consider that having a WBS tool integrated in wrike is quite necessary, sine WBS is a standard step in the project management.

 

 

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Just going to add to the discussion that this is so needed.  From the changing of default views when you exit / return, to adding in tasks after initial creation into the middle of the plan, a WBS structure would preserve the integrity of the plan's overall structure.  This is an out of the box feature in MS Project, and one that experienced PMs use with regularity.  Hard to get them fully committed to Wrike without some baseline features from Project.  

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Hey everyone, apologies for the delay in response here.
 
While the Product team is still interested in this suggestion, there are currently no plans to add this feature to the short-term roadmap. I understand that this will come as disappointing news, but rest assured that all of your feedback has been shared with the team and that we'll be checking in regularly for future updates.
 
If you need anything else, be sure to let me know.
 

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You might want to let the Product Team know that freemium note taking apps like Roam and Obsidian have network diagrams and are a threat to Wrike's survival since they are starting to eclipse Wrike's feature set on basic project management features. While people may not jump ship for a single feature, enough features requests have been ignored that the tipping point is visible. It's not too late to compete, but it may be sooner rather than later. 

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