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[Status: Not planned] Custom sort order - Folders

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    Jason Thayer

    I'm surprised as well, but I will say what I've said before. I believe there is a technical limitation in the way the application was developed that is preventing this from being possible, for reasons I can't explain beyond that. this is a simple feature that has been requested for years, but we get things like spaces and my work instead. I believe that if they could implement tsis, they obviously would based on the comments in this post.

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    Phil Sim

    I can't understand how there is possibly a technical limitation - even if you went low-fi with an older style of edit order - with up/down buttons, and then save order - you could then add a hidden prefix that is calculated on save that is used for identical alphabetic ordering. Like I can't imagine how this couldn't be whipped up in a 24-hour hackathon.

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    Al Sape

    Phil Sim and Jason Thayer Hey guys great stuff.  Jason to your point, the last response from Wrike is back in June, and if you look across the community at other popular posts for basic stuff that's fundamental to Asana, ClickUp, even Jira, the answers are few and far between as well.  I am concerned that with Wrike being an older product compared to much of the other stuff out there, that they are loaded with technical debt, and made some poor architecture decisions and we are stuck with them.  Wrike is riding one good decision I think in the product - ability to have unlimited hierarchy, and folders can bet both time-based (projects) or just containers (folders).  That in a nutshell is all Wrike offers me above and beyond any other tool, but those are such significant features that it brought me here.

    But now that I'm on an expensive, annual paid license - that I might add I've only seen required by another dinosaur in the space - LiquidPlanner, which is on the verge of extinction - I expect more.  There is also a slew of functionality I was hoping to get that I'd have to pay for both Marketing and Integrate licenses, effectively quadrupling the already high cost per seat for my team.

    I am really curious what the "product team" does on a daily basis.  Presumably it must be big given the size of Wrike's staff and worldwide offices, but from the point of view of an actual paying customer, next to impossible to see any real progress.  Even the iOS apps clearly have a more modern interface, one I'd welcome on the desktop version, but god knows when that's coming, if at all...

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    Jason Thayer

    Al - agreed. We're thinking the same thing.

    I understand that Wrike must balance many things while they are making these decisions, and some have long lasting effects.

    There are many other things to like about the application as you have mentioned. For me it is the fact that I can have all of my lists in different folders and they offer a dashboard to pull them all together in filters that I need. of course we could just have saved filters in list view also, but we don't.

    The killer feature for me is the dashboard. Most other apps really fail at that. For instance most of the no-code projects are pretty cool, but separate lists and databases are totally separate.

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    Phil Sim

    There seems to be a very clear focus on new "add-ons" - the new Wrike Analytics stuff is awesome but not if I can't get the rest of my team to really dive into the product which is what we have failed to do this past year. 

    Ignoring the fundamentals like this one - the other one that drives me nuts is the undercooked spaces, whereby I can't even choose on a space-by-space basis whether I want to show folders or subtasks nevermind being able to choose a view other than list.

    Like you I had to upgrade to integrate and the marketing version to make it do what I wanted and Wrike is now the most expensive application in our productivity stack. When I'm paying that much money for a product that should be as mature as Wrike, I don't expect to have daily frustrations like the ones I've described in an area as simple as navigation. I've already indicated to my account manager that we won't be continuing, and I'm switching to another product which I think is a couple of upcoming releases away from out-doing Wrike on every level. It's a shame because my investment from both and time and monetary basis has been significant.

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    Al Sape

    Hey guys Phil Sim and Jason Thayer thanks guys! and can't resist jumping back in again...wonder how many of other users echo our sentiments but don't have the time to comment as well - or are too busy to spend time in here, haha.

    Jason, you are right, the nocode stuff is lacking in a lot of functional stuff for Project Management like dashboards, reporting, etc. but they are moving quickly.  I just paid for Coda 2.0 for one seat to continue to watch its progress.  That team is very responsive and I've actually spoken in person many times with their product people.  They are honestly building a modern app that I'm sure in a year, if not sooner, will bypass Wrike and some other slow movers - I mentioned Asana, and although flashier in appearance that Wrike - it is equally devoid of basic features and in danger of being eclipsed.

    And Phil I won't ask you to reveal what you're moving to, but I'm sure I know it.  I have been testing other stuff non-stop for about 6 months after buying my Wrike license, as I could not ultimately get my team on Wrike due to the various limitations that baffle me.  You obviously have a technical background and I think your analyses are spot on.  Again, makes me wonder what management at Wrike is counting on as these competitors are coming up hard and fast, clearly are build on more modern platforms, better UI's, cheaper, iterating at breakneck speed, and there are new ones all the time - you should check out fibery.io for a good example.  And I agree Phil the time that goes into Wrike, in my case on workarounds, is a real killer.  And I could probably name 5 tools I've used extensively that I am sure - as you state- within a year's time will have everything Wrike does, and more.  And most all actually respond to user feedback, and build around that.

    Great talking to you guys and cheers!

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    Phil Sim

    Cheers AL.  I've already personally moved to the new tool - I wanted to see forms and dashboards - both of which were on their roadmap for November - before I switched but I think I'm going to pull the trigger anyway. I can do with the cashflow saving not renewing with Wrike will save me.

    On that note, having a transparent and thoughtful roadmap/ feature request system is a big difference in itself. Wrike gives you no insight into what they are developing, what features, etc are being considered and hence it seems they drop stuff like Spaces, without it being . These two features have missed their roadmap date, but at least I know they're being worked on and edging towards roll-out (they;ve even provided screenshots to show the direction they are going). For example, Workflow automation is on their roadmap for December - and so I know that there some immediate needs I have there that I might hack up in Zapier, but larger ones I feel like I can hold off on.

    Cheers for the link to fibery, I've been using a tool called Miro to do some of the project visualisation stuff that looks to be baked in on there.

     

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    TK Chuah

    Phil Sim would it be possible for you to share what is the tools that you have moved to? We too have been haunted by the lack of ability to drag and drop project/folder sequence causing lots of problems when it comes to task visualization.

    You can PM me alternatively or drop me at mail at tkchuah @ instanture . com

     

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    Al Sape

    Hey guys, TK Chuah most of the tools I've tested - Fibery, Coda, ClickUp, Hive, etc. all have that basic functionality.  I am done with Wrike at this point, working on a nocode solution leaning towards Coda, although I have to bring in my dev team to help me as it does require configuration.  But you can configure it to do practically anything you need, so well worth it.  

    Best of luck to both of you, enjoyed chatting and if you have any new insights, be glad to get them.  Coda has not quite met my need, so I'm still << a bit >> in the market for something!

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    Elaine McDonagh

    Hi all, thanks for your contributions and input here. 

    We’re sorry to read that you’re disappointed that this idea isn’t currently planned. We’d love to be able to implement all of the suggestions that our customers share with us, but we have to prioritize certain requests over others based on various factors and considerations at the time. Although this isn’t currently planned, we will continue to pass on all of your feedback and insights here to our Product Team and of course, we will let you know if anything changes. 

    If there’s anything else we can help with please don’t hesitate to let us know 👍

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    Ricardo Pinto

    Still waiting for this feature to get implemented...

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    Jeremy Bendahan

    Elaine could you at least tell us why the feature isn't planned? Is it a technical limitation that would need a major overhaul?

     

    Wrike appears to me like Evernote : great, functional app in its core with major resistance to change and no responsiveness from staff along with very slow iterations.

     

    In the same way Evernote is being taken over by Notion, Wrike is bound to have a same faith against the likes of monday.com, or Clickup if it doesn't change.

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    David Schneider

    I hope this is not dead.  It should be a fairly simple fix?

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    Hugh

    Hi everyone, thank you for all of your feedback here. It's been passed on to the Product team.

    According to the team, a suggestion such as this one would be difficult to implement into the product. If anything changes, however, I'll be sure to update this thread with any other news.

    If you have any other questions, be sure to let me know!

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    William Hopkins-Trumm

    Having viewed the history in here and in other threads this doesn't seem to be moving forward, right?

     

    Definitely a missing link towards a positive buying decision!

     

    Any further positive insight and/or timeline on this?

    Thanks!

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    Pedro Alves

    I spent some time today testing Wrike. 

    This absolutely basic feature is the reason I will not be choosing Wrike. 

    Cheers.

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    Lisa

    Thanks for your feedback, Pedro Alves, I'm passing it on to the team. I'm sorry to hear it didn't work out for you! Just in case it helps, we've recently announced the New Wrike Experience here - please check it out. It brings a fresh look to the workspace, making it easier to navigate across Wrike and quickly access your work. 

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    Hugh Strange

    Another up-vote for this basic feature please. I'm already using numerical values to force a sorting on some of our folder structure but I shouldn't have to do that. Cheers

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    Hugh

    Thank you for sharing your use case here, Hugh Strange. If there are any updates here, I'll be sure to let you know.

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